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#1:  Aww I got banned.... Author: Ennustaja Post You have posted in this forum: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:26 pm

Trying to come on to the server today.... "You have been banned." Dang. I haven't even played on there hardly at all for the last couple weeks. That knucklehead Komentaja must have gotten himself banned....

#2:   Author: PistolPete Post You have posted in this forum: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:36 pm

are u sure u went to the right server? i really dont think u were banned cuz u have never been on to be banned anyway, plus as far as we know Smile u and ur bro dont hack

also we gotta new server ip, dunno if u know, check the main page, iowclan.com its over there

#3:   Author: Ennustaja Post You have posted in this forum: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:38 pm

I think komen was playing on some other name and cdkey... maybe I'll ask him about it.

#4:   Author: Komentaja Post You have posted in this forum: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:50 pm

Does 'SnapShot' ring a bell? I was fooling around with a different name and didn't want anybody to recognize me. I had figured that the iow server would be one of the last places I would be banned from. Confused

Could someone do a unban please?
Crying or Very sad

#5:   Author: Ennustaja Post You have posted in this forum: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:54 pm

Btw if you have a demo I'd love to see it Razz

#6:   Author: PistolPete Post You have posted in this forum: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:01 pm

lol sry about that i guess, well right now there is a practice goin on and im gonna go to the server, ill tell nort about it, u shud be unbanned lata tonite then if it was u, btw who banned u?

#7:   Author: Komentaja Post You have posted in this forum: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:04 pm

I think it was Stevonub because he went to spec while I was playing and then some admin came in on a alias and banned me. But don't hold me to that, I may be wrong.

#8:   Author: Matt5 Post You have posted in this forum: Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:19 pm

banned ya for wut? nuttin?

had to be banned for a reason...

#9:   Author: Frosty Post You have posted in this forum: Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:20 pm

yea i was on the server.. when it happened i was messing around to.. u were that guy with (:... i forgot. and ur bro was snap shot. i heard from so ppl saying that u were shooting threw walls i dunno, but i dont think u hack. U gotta ask Stevo, him and Jewman said got some demos and Screenshots.

#10:   Author: DarkStrike Post You have posted in this forum: Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:41 pm

lol, yeah when you watch komen play you think you see hacks xP

#11:   Author: RegBarclay Post You have posted in this forum: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:42 pm

I’m worried this is my fault so I’ll say this. This was last night. I dunno what happened today.

Bobfromaccounting said you were suspicious and you got 58acc with sten so I decided to spec/demo you for a game.

Later on I told App I thought you might be hacking but not using an aimbot. I said to keep an eye out for you. Told bob I thought you were hacking in some manner as well.

It went something like.. I couldn’t spec Snapshot using the sten but when playing dead you seemed to lock on axis. Seemed to me like something odd was happening. Sorta like a lock on axis.

This is probably my fault ugh. I even talked about all your cool needle kills and stuff last night.

Thought maybe an admin would spec / request my demo first like Stevo did before. I shouldn’t have said anything and just emailed the demo to IOW.

#12:   Author: Komentaja Post You have posted in this forum: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:50 pm

@Matt5: I was banned for 'hacking'.

#13:   Author: Frosty Post You have posted in this forum: Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:35 pm

we need the demos so we can get things worked out... ohh yea and stevo said something about u like going on servers with Pb unprotected, well i havent seen anything but we really need those demos... If we dont have Em komen gets unbanned.

#14:   Author: StEVoNuB420 Post You have posted in this forum: Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:51 pm

Yeah I banned u.Thing is I saw u get kills one after the other and u hardly ever missed and got a shitload of hs.I know ur a good player but i've never seen u play this good b4.Not knowing it was u I speced u and even recorded it.I can tell whoever it was,was a good player cuz u were moving side to side and reloading,sniping,,,etc.......which is y i was hesitant to ban u at first.So I logged out and checked the name on SL.Aside from playing on our server u were on 2 other ones b4....both servers with PB not enabled...in other words servers that allow hacks. So when I came back on I asked u " So Snapshot, u like to play on server that have PB disabled?".....and u denied it.So I responded " Well SL doesn't lie about which servers u played on" and since the name Snapshot wasn't used for long it further rose my suspicions. The last thing that convinced me u were hacking was that 2 of my members taht were specing u also,confirmed it and said they had screenshots of u shooting a person behind a tank or somewhere were he wasn't visible.So I will unban u cuz I know u arent a hax but maybe u were testing one out or using one for fun??? I also did a !listplayers and no aka Kommentaja came up. So if that isn't suspicious I don't know what is. I will unban u cuz I wasn't 100% sure about it.So I apologize for the mistake,I am only human. But please don't let me regret my decision and find out u were testing a hax out on our server.PEACE!!

#15:   Author: mayol Post You have posted in this forum: Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:27 pm

A little offtopic.
I'm not even close to taja bros in shooting skills but.. once I used sten on battery as axis and I was able to put TONS of hs and very very solid acc. I was even thinking "if I speced someone shooting like this I would be sure its a hax"..

#16:   Author: Frosty Post You have posted in this forum: Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:10 am

Cant we at least c the demo stevoo??

#17:   Author: Matt5 Post You have posted in this forum: Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:10 am

he has to hack no1 can kill 2 pplz new spawn with lugars then 1v1 miss everytime after i say hacks....

thats just wtf how can u go from that good to that bad... no ONE hit...

not to metion typing and as im reading one word and jumping i get sniper close range HS from him

how to u after typeing... zoom aim shoot all in the time it takes 2 read one word? while some1 is jumping none the less...

n why lie if u have nuttin to hide?...

#18:   Author: PistolPete Post You have posted in this forum: Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:36 am

ok and um back to the actual post topic, how the hell did ennustaja get banned? can someone explain that

#19:   Author: krissy Post You have posted in this forum: Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:28 am

OMG i remember snapshot kille dme like 1000 times.. lastnight.. with pistols...... Komen u devil.... Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad why didnt u tell me it was u.. but i was messing around saying you were pistol hax..why didnt u tell me it was u.. atleast if i knew it was u i wud have joinde your team.. Laughing Laughing but didnt know anything about this ban.. so its always better to use the name everyone know in these situations.. they will consider twice before banning for any suspecion..

Next time pls tel the members atleast if u using some other name...and your name didnt come up in !listplayers as well..

#20:   Author: Fuzzy Burrito Post You have posted in this forum: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:17 am

ok, a lot of what im gonna say is VERY contradicting. i am a confused child.

ennus, aka eisenhower, aka ender, and komen, aka rommel, aka bnder. how long has it been since i started playing ET with you? about a year i believe. back when u were ender and bnder, on SoK, you pwned. people accused to you of hacking then, of course, not as often -- it was a year ago. but what i dont know, is that did you get banned from there? no matter.

after sok shut down (after i left), you followed me to my next clan, rmc. this is where it seemed you guys turned it on. EVERYONE said u hack. u got soo fed up w/ the bullshit from chris and steve, you started aliasing and causing shit. at that point, i almost banned you, but not for hacking. none the less, not too much time later, and after more bullshit from both sides, you were banned.

so here we are, @ iow, u seemed to follow me again. kinda freaky. of course, you are still being called hackers. and if i may add, for all the right reasons. you maintain hacking status because of just that, your stats, whether hacks or not. and again, you got banned. hackers ftw.

now, i played w/ you long enough to see gradual improvement; from "pwning" to "omgwtf u fuckin h4x n00b". now this is where i make my point... finally. CAN THIS MANY PEOPLE BE WRONG ABOUT IT?

i dun wanna cause shit, but ive made points for both sides ( i think)

bah

#21:   Author: Komentaja Post You have posted in this forum: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:47 am

Stevonub btw the reason you didn't see me on !listplayers was because I had switched to a different guid.

Fuzzy, we are not and haven't ever hacked on E.T. I admit I'm a little hardcore when it comes to E.T., though.

Lastly, Pete, the reason we both got banned is because the computers are networked up.

#22:   Author: Ennustaja Post You have posted in this forum: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:52 am

I want demos Razz . I want to see if it looks like he's cheating to me so I don't think others playing like that are cheating in the future.

And fuzzy, dude, I swear you followed us here not the other way around. I don't remember seeing you on this server much when we first played on it. You were still in Rmc at the time.

#23:   Author: Fuzzy Burrito Post You have posted in this forum: Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:25 pm

Ennustaja wrote: › And fuzzy, dude, I swear you followed us here not the other way around. I don't remember seeing you on this server much when we first played on it. You were still in Rmc at the time.


i played here a while before i went to rmc. dunno if that makes me the first or not, but just ftr.

#24:   Author: StEVoNuB420 Post You have posted in this forum: Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:28 pm

I have the demo but it's not letting me upload it. As soon as I find out the problem I shall post it.

#25:   Author: Frosty Post You have posted in this forum: Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:07 pm

i saw the stevo's demo and it has nothing of him hacking, we still need to c the screenshots tho.

#26:   Author: Matt5 Post You have posted in this forum: Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:16 pm

Komentaja wrote: › Stevonub btw the reason you didn't see me on !listplayers was because I had switched to a different guid.

Fuzzy, we are not and haven't ever hacked on E.T. I admit I'm a little hardcore when it comes to E.T., though.

Lastly, Pete, the reason we both got banned is because the computers are networked up.


why change guid's?

their is just a DUMB amount of stelth to just hid who you where... lying... chaning guid... for what!? hacks really seem like something that would be worth it...

#27:   Author: DarkStrike Post You have posted in this forum: Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:44 pm

matt, you dont know how good komen is if you think he is hacking. He probably just wanted to see how we would respond. Because he is mightly good. And I know for a fact, and so does his fg42...

#28:   Author: Komentaja Post You have posted in this forum: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:45 am

BTW Matt, when did I lie?

And like Darkstrike said, I was just messing around, wanted to see what you would think if some random guy came and was as good as me.

Nobody needs to really respond to this anymore, it's resolved.

#29:   Author: Nilla Post You have posted in this forum: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:33 pm

Come on......NO NEED TO REPLY???? That is a big invite for ice to open his mouth. I have to admit I have at times thought you two were hax. But....and this is a big but....(not to be confused with stevos big butt) all of your "suspicious" play could be attributed to your setup...mostly connection. You have excellent pings. That isn't the problem. My question for you is what router/hub/switch are you using for your in-house network? I have seen this problem with other people in the past. Certain networks allow for players to have an awesome download and a shitty upload. After seeing much of this I can only suspect that the server can send you outgoing data with more efficiency than the info your computer sends back to the server. I have witnessed this first hand with a guy with a ping of 20. He his upload was low enough he warped, even though on his computer everything appeared normal.

Back to you haxing.....you have always had a wierd problem with getting 90% hits on one clip of pistols and 10% on the next. I see this with a lot of peeps with funky connections. My justification: it happens! Unfortunately the ET world is not perfect and not everyone has the same connections or even computers. So....I bitch about +200 pings (they have no right to have over 20% accuracy) and leave it at that. Besides....if I called you a haxor I would be a hipocri....I mean....whiny bitch:)

Ice

#30:   Author: krissy Post You have posted in this forum: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:37 am

huh!!!! Komen u can no longer try different names.. I can easily tell when you are playing on different name.. like i did last night.. Smile Smile

What are your actual names??? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

#31:   Author: Nilla Post You have posted in this forum: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:06 am

krissy wrote: › What are your actual names??? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


Barbi and Skipper



Ice

#32:   Author: Nervous Post You have posted in this forum: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:17 am

Just as a little side note:
Komen is one of the few people on the server that gave me trouble on a consistent basis. I wasn't good enough to assume that someone who kills me more than I kill them is a hacker. I must admit at times I've wondered about K, if for nothing else than the FG42 accuracy and HS with said gun. Sten is wacky anyway. I never used the thing but decided to try it once against RegB and some other sten users. I shot 45-50 percent for whole rounds consistently with loads of HS. The gun is just unreal. Only negative is also a positive. The gun overheats, but that forces you to burst fire, which even FURTHER increases the accuracy.

For what it's worth. I have doubts about anyone shooting over 50 for whole rounds. It's just nearly impossible with any semblance of competition on the other team. Most average players couldn't shoot over 50 with the other team standing still. LOL

Without evidence, I believe I'd go with Nilla on this one. Odd connection issues cause strange disturbances in the force, young Skywalker.


Note:
I've seen a loudmouth tick one of these guys off. I'm not talking about one or two smart-aleck remarks. I'm talking of just round-fulls of berating and accusations. So I keep noticing Komen is killing this guy over and over and over, and the guy is not great but he doesn't just suck either. Ok, he wasn't good. I spec Komen and I can tell someone's giving him a little "advice" on where that guy is, because everytime that guy spawns, Komen is in his grill, replacing the gold fillings with bullets.

I pm Komen and was like "This guy is really stupid. He doesn't know you guys are specing him and communicating." Komen was "Fun, isn't it.". He said he would never do that except in that odd circumstance where the guy just wouldn't let up.

Another point on Komen's side:
He doesn't talk trash (at least not when I played). He hardly even talks unless someone talks to him. If he WERE getting assistance from hacks, then he pretty much gets the joy joy on the personal side, because he doesn't gloat about it. I just wouldn't understand the point of someone hacking for SO LONG. I mean if someone chose to do it, did it, and won/mopped up, why would they continue to do so?

I always figured, Komen was probably a former alpha slumming it. However, most Alphas wouldn't play anything but etpro. Anyway whatever the case, I can only offer anecdotal information. He always seemed to be a nice, pleasant, reasonably humble person unless someone was accusing him of cheating. Although not quite as good nor accused quite as often, I know first-hand getting accused that often sucks.

That being said, if it's proven that he did do it:
NEVERMIND. LOL

Take it easy. Hope you beat the "rap". Razz
Jason


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#33:   Author: BECK Post You have posted in this forum: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:23 am

Nervous wrote: › Just as a little side note:
Komen is one of the few people on the server that gave me trouble on a consistent basis. I wasn't good enough to assume that someone who kills me more than I kill them is a hacker. I must admit at times I've wondered about K, if for nothing else than the FG42 accuracy and HS with said gun. Sten is wacky anyway. I never used the thing but decided to try it once against RegB and some other sten users. I shot 45-50 percent for whole rounds consistently with loads of HS. The gun is just unreal. Only negative is also a positive. The gun overheats, but that forces you to burst fire, which even FURTHER increases the accuracy.

For what it's worth. I have doubts about anyone shooting over 50 for whole rounds. It's just nearly impossible with any semblance of competition on the other team. Most average players couldn't shoot over 50 with the other team standing still. LOL

Without evidence, I believe I'd go with Nilla on this one. Odd connection issues cause strange disturbances in the force, young Skywalker.


Note:
I've seen a loudmouth tick one of these guys off. I'm not talking about one or two smart-aleck remarks. I'm talking of just round-fulls of berating and accusations. So I keep noticing Komen is killing this guy over and over and over, and the guy is not great but he doesn't just suck either. Ok, he wasn't good. I spec Komen and I can tell someone's giving him a little "advice" on where that guy is, because everytime that guy spawns, Komen is in his grill, replacing the gold fillings with bullets.

I pm Komen and was like "This guy is really stupid. He doesn't know you guys are specing him and communicating." Komen was "Fun, isn't it.". He said he would never do that except in that odd circumstance where the guy just wouldn't let up.

Another point on Komen's side:
He doesn't talk trash (at least not when I played). He hardly even talks unless someone talks to him. If he WERE getting assistance from hacks, then he pretty much gets the joy joy on the personal side, because he doesn't gloat about it. I just wouldn't understand the point of someone hacking for SO LONG. I mean if someone chose to do it, did it, and won/mopped up, why would they continue to do so?

I always figured, Komen was probably a former alpha slumming it. However, most Alphas wouldn't play anything but etpro. Anyway whatever the case, I can only offer anecdotal information. He always seemed to be a nice, pleasant, reasonably humble person unless someone was accusing him of cheating. Although not quite as good nor accused quite as often, I know first-hand getting accused that often sucks.

That being said, if it's proven that he did do it:
NEVERMIND. LOL

Take it easy. Hope you beat the "wrap". Razz
Jason

Can you hear that? It's calling your name again, isn't it?




Nice to see you posting again. When you coming back to the game?

#34:   Author: Nervous Post You have posted in this forum: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:39 am

Here is the response in picture form:


Soon--------Month or So-----------Never----------------------Nervous
|------------------|-------------------|------------| |------------|

Just checking in on folks. Been a while. Not trying to hijack a thread.
3 months without ET crack is worthy of remaining off of it. It was causing family issues, so I put it away. About 2.5 months after quitting, almost like a sign from God, my graphics card went kapow! Eh. Good riddance. My wife loves me again.

Riding the bike now. It's not top of the line, but definitely a middle of the road bike...not riding in the middle of the road, was referring to quality only Smile Pic on www.myspace.com/jsheats (the bike, well me too, but that's not the point).

Hope everyone is well.
Jason


We now return you to your regularly scheduled program, the drama that is "Hacking or Not Hacking...You Be the Judge".....

#35:   Author: Nort Post You have posted in this forum: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:51 am

ohh, let me be the judge! i say komm and ennu hate me, cause i am witch hunting to ban them! some day ohh yes someday!!!! poof! ill get you my little pretties, and yer dog too!

im on to you see, cuase i found a relative of yers on the pbbans master list!!!

[PBBans:5551 11.27.2004] 7576fa4abf0b5ba1b7b96cecdef2b8b1 "Shruputtaja" "80.220.189.182" "AIMBOT #50051"

ohh i will be updating the master ban list with a newer copy. if you find you are banned you will need to email me nort@iowclan.com for me to look into the master ban list.

#36:   Author: Nort Post You have posted in this forum: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:01 pm

ohh and there are several that get a game integrity kick. which is for hardware issues.
here is a forum topic on it:

http://www.punksbusted.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=946

appears that a harddrive with fragged pb files can cuase this problem alot.

#37:   Author: Ajax Post You have posted in this forum: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:15 pm

Holy Fuck!

Nervous lives...and posts...

and the itch begins in the tip of his mouse trigger finger...it's just a little itch mind you, but it's growing larger...and larger...and pretty soon his brain is gonna say "Come on Jason...you know you want to...just a little bit...come on...what's a map gonna hurt?" And soon that little itch is a medium sized itch, and then it's gonna be HOTTER THAN FUCKING HELL ITSELF in Houston, and Jason's gonna say in his Alabama twang "it's too dayum hot ta riide taday" and he's gonna boot that sweet shit up...he's gonna look around...and Christy and the girls are gonna be out of the house down the street at Kroger or buying new blinds or some kind of fucking bullshit like that...and he's gonna be thinking to himself "it's just me and the computer all by ourselves in this big ole house" and he's gonna be thinking "naw I really shouldn't do this but I wonder if that bastard Ajax is fucking in town and then if he IS maybe he's on the IoW..." and then he's suddenly got a twitch in his left eye, and his trigger finger ITCHES REALLY BAD and the ONLY way to stop it is to hook it up...and try to hit the broad side of a fucking barn after being away for 3 damned months and that shit is just going to eat him the fuck up and he will NOT be able to stop until he can get his goddamned accuracy up over 15% and then whaddya know his girls are home and it's been 8 hours since he logged in and he's gotta be to work in 5 hours and traffic is gonna suck and all he's gonna be able to think about all damned day is getting back on to finally PROVE that he can take the Taja Bros out any time he wants....

!Whew!

How was that J? Laughing

#38:   Author: Fuzzy Burrito Post You have posted in this forum: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:50 am

i got the same itch, 'cept its on my balls

o there, i got it. much better.

J, the itch is worth the scratch

#39:   Author: Nort Post You have posted in this forum: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:19 am

anyone can take out the taja's. its that damn noober nort you best watch out for!

#40:   Author: BECK Post You have posted in this forum: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:27 am

Ajax wrote: › Holy Fuck!

Nervous lives...and posts...

and the itch begins in the tip of his mouse trigger finger...it's just a little itch mind you, but it's growing larger...and larger...and pretty soon his brain is gonna say "Come on Jason...you know you want to...just a little bit...come on...what's a map gonna hurt?" And soon that little itch is a medium sized itch, and then it's gonna be HOTTER THAN FUCKING HELL ITSELF in Houston, and Jason's gonna say in his Alabama twang "it's too dayum hot ta riide taday" and he's gonna boot that sweet shit up...he's gonna look around...and Christy and the girls are gonna be out of the house down the street at Kroger or buying new blinds or some kind of fucking bullshit like that...and he's gonna be thinking to himself "it's just me and the computer all by ourselves in this big ole house" and he's gonna be thinking "naw I really shouldn't do this but I wonder if that bastard Ajax is fucking in town and then if he IS maybe he's on the IoW..." and then he's suddenly got a twitch in his left eye, and his trigger finger ITCHES REALLY BAD and the ONLY way to stop it is to hook it up...and try to hit the broad side of a fucking barn after being away for 3 damned months and that shit is just going to eat him the fuck up and he will NOT be able to stop until he can get his goddamned accuracy up over 15% and then whaddya know his girls are home and it's been 8 hours since he logged in and he's gotta be to work in 5 hours and traffic is gonna suck and all he's gonna be able to think about all damned day is getting back on to finally PROVE that he can take the Taja Bros out any time he wants....

!Whew!

How was that J? Laughing

LMAO - good stuff man...

I've got the constant itch. It's even more satisfying when you scratch it while at work! Cool Cool

I tried tell Nerv he can't quit this game - frankly, I'm surprised he's made it this long. More power too you man, I have a family who is annoyed by ET as well....we just have a little understanding, you see Laughing Razz .

#41:   Author: Nervous Post You have posted in this forum: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:36 pm

Speaking of missing people coming out of the woodwork to comment on crazy stuff, there's my ol' pal Ajax checking in from Denver where evidently all the women have a weakness for tall cats with a sharp wit, decent bank, and a fine M3. (I'll refrain from commenting on looks, cause let's face it, I put the ug in ugly and I married way-tf-up the good looks chain). Smile

Nah man, I just don't see it anymore. MAYBE if QW or RTCW2--whatever it is--comes out and isn't too much like Halo or other futuristic crap, I'd play a little, but everyone knows I can't play "a little". As Tyrone says on the Chappelle Show..."Cocaine is a powerful drug."

I have TIVO set to record every show that guy makes. I just roll laughing through every episode.


So anyway, I doubt I'd be shooting 15 percent (you think 3 months could do that? LOL), but I wouldn't be shooting 40s that's for sure. My PC is a load of crap and I absolutely refuse to play another video game on a pc that's not at least current. If anyone feels like donating to the "get Nervous a fix" relief fund, at least a 19' flat screen, monster vid card(I don't even know what would be good now lol), 2-4 GB RAM, Raptors, etc, etc. Just email me and I'll give you the Paypal account into which you can make the big deposit. HA.

I seriously quit for my family. I thought about it once, but I just can't do that to them. I'm a lot nicer without playing it so much.

Seems they don't mind me doing console stuff (shooting games on consoles SUCK), like NFSMost Wanted and Tiger Woods, since I can save and quit those, and they can even play those with me. BTW, I shot a freaking 47!!!!! on Troon North Monument...25 under. Sick huh? Can you imagine if Tiger Woods or Phil Mickelson could drive a ball 380-400 yards? Well that's me on that game. Tiger caddies for me often ; )

PS Who is John that sent me a myspace add request? I added Andy and John, and I know Andy is Vanilla Ice. Just don't know who John is.

Take it easy everyone, and let me know when you can do lunch Sean.

Jason


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#42:   Author: StEVoNuB420 Post You have posted in this forum: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:49 pm

John would be the late and great MadeInTheUsa AKA Tan Gik.
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